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		<title>Comment on Some words from Michael Moore by Brent Hardaway</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/some-words-from-michael-moore/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Hardaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Kelly, sorry for the shameless plug, but I weighed in on these topics at some length a few years ago.

http://www.tektonics.org/guest/bhcapital00.html

Where did Jesus ever say &quot;Let the government look after the poor. All you have to be is an activist&quot;. When the prophets cried out to the oppressed, were they calling for higher taxes and more generous social programs? Did they protest &quot;windfall profits&quot;. No. Never. They called for honest weights and measures, and to stop brutalizing them and taking whatever meager possessions they had. Such a society hardly describes America as a whole. Look to the killing fields of the Third World for true oppression of the poor. Most of America&#039;s &quot;poor&quot; don&#039;t even qualify as poor by any Biblical standard. I lived below the &quot;poverty line&quot; during the years you knew me in real life. I never was hungry, or in want of any real need.

Besides, Moore believes that our religious beliefs should be private and personal. So if Jesus was a socialist, how dare we impose our beliefs on others? 

Jesus hated hypocrisy. Moore is also already in the top 1% and lives as large as anyone in that category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Kelly, sorry for the shameless plug, but I weighed in on these topics at some length a few years ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tektonics.org/guest/bhcapital00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tektonics.org/guest/bhcapital00.html</a></p>
<p>Where did Jesus ever say &#8220;Let the government look after the poor. All you have to be is an activist&#8221;. When the prophets cried out to the oppressed, were they calling for higher taxes and more generous social programs? Did they protest &#8220;windfall profits&#8221;. No. Never. They called for honest weights and measures, and to stop brutalizing them and taking whatever meager possessions they had. Such a society hardly describes America as a whole. Look to the killing fields of the Third World for true oppression of the poor. Most of America&#8217;s &#8220;poor&#8221; don&#8217;t even qualify as poor by any Biblical standard. I lived below the &#8220;poverty line&#8221; during the years you knew me in real life. I never was hungry, or in want of any real need.</p>
<p>Besides, Moore believes that our religious beliefs should be private and personal. So if Jesus was a socialist, how dare we impose our beliefs on others? </p>
<p>Jesus hated hypocrisy. Moore is also already in the top 1% and lives as large as anyone in that category.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another World by Matt Westerlund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Westerlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just browsing your blog.  Saw this and thought you would really enjoy &quot;The name of the Wind.&quot;  Great read, slightly different take on a different world than the above mentioned series, but very in depth.  The biggest problem is that he is taking so long to get the sequel out.  Oh and its written by Patrick Rothfuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just browsing your blog.  Saw this and thought you would really enjoy &#8220;The name of the Wind.&#8221;  Great read, slightly different take on a different world than the above mentioned series, but very in depth.  The biggest problem is that he is taking so long to get the sequel out.  Oh and its written by Patrick Rothfuss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Political spin with Healthcare reform by kelleymata</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/political-spin-with-healthcare-reform/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>kelleymata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks...its fixed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;its fixed now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Political spin with Healthcare reform by Greg Bohlken</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/political-spin-with-healthcare-reform/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bohlken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelley, not sure what happened but your 2009 link is broken. Try this, and just scroll down to &quot;Section 1233 Advance Care Planning Consultation.&quot; One extra step, but should help folks find the actual text.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelley, not sure what happened but your 2009 link is broken. Try this, and just scroll down to &#8220;Section 1233 Advance Care Planning Consultation.&#8221; One extra step, but should help folks find the actual text.</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200</a>:</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by kelleymata</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/authority-in-community-the-bible-as-idolatry/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>kelleymata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you presuppose that you have interpreted it correctly?

absolutely not.  My post merely puts forth my perspective and thoughts.  They are helpful to me but not necessarily helpful, nor do they make good sense to you.  But that&#039;s okay because I am responsible to God for my beliefs, with which I am at peace.

So I am not sure why we keep the comments going.  Are you hoping to change or &quot;convert&quot; my opinions to what you think or are you just curious and want to understand what I am thinking?

If it is the latter, I am more than willing to continue to have a discussion with you, if it is the former, I think we&#039;re done.

peace to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you presuppose that you have interpreted it correctly?</p>
<p>absolutely not.  My post merely puts forth my perspective and thoughts.  They are helpful to me but not necessarily helpful, nor do they make good sense to you.  But that&#8217;s okay because I am responsible to God for my beliefs, with which I am at peace.</p>
<p>So I am not sure why we keep the comments going.  Are you hoping to change or &#8220;convert&#8221; my opinions to what you think or are you just curious and want to understand what I am thinking?</p>
<p>If it is the latter, I am more than willing to continue to have a discussion with you, if it is the former, I think we&#8217;re done.</p>
<p>peace to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you did say:

&quot;I was recently asked by a friend of mine, whether, as Christians, the Bible is our Authority?  My reply was no.&quot;

Maybe your no should have been changed to not completely?

&quot;This however is the how many Christian groups view Bible (missing that they impact meaning through their interpretation). This leads to an idolatrous perspective of Bible.&quot;

So, misinterpretation is idolatry?  Do you presuppose that you have interpreted it correctly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you did say:</p>
<p>&#8220;I was recently asked by a friend of mine, whether, as Christians, the Bible is our Authority?  My reply was no.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe your no should have been changed to not completely?</p>
<p>&#8220;This however is the how many Christian groups view Bible (missing that they impact meaning through their interpretation). This leads to an idolatrous perspective of Bible.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, misinterpretation is idolatry?  Do you presuppose that you have interpreted it correctly?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by kelleymata</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/authority-in-community-the-bible-as-idolatry/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>kelleymata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO.  I didn&#039;t say that the Bible holds not authority for the Christian Community.  It does.  I am saying that we all approach this text and that our engagement with that involves an interpretive process that will always impose much of what we bring to the text, which in turn affects what we take away.  That which we bring to the text comes from cutlural, religious and experiential sources.  Therefore we cannot suppose that our interpretation is completely accurate, nor in any way absolute.  

This however is the how many Christian groups view Bible (missing that they impact meaning through their interpretation).  This leads to an idolatrous perspective of Bible.

For me The Bible has tremendous meaning and has fundamentally informed my understanding of God, the world and myself.  I have spent years reading, studying and trusting it.  I took Greek and Hebrew in Seminary so that I might be a better student of the text.  

However we must keep in mind that no matter how diligently we study, the goal is not the bible but the one to whom it points.  

St. Thomas said, &quot;The primary object of faith is not a proposition, but the reality that it designates.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO.  I didn&#8217;t say that the Bible holds not authority for the Christian Community.  It does.  I am saying that we all approach this text and that our engagement with that involves an interpretive process that will always impose much of what we bring to the text, which in turn affects what we take away.  That which we bring to the text comes from cutlural, religious and experiential sources.  Therefore we cannot suppose that our interpretation is completely accurate, nor in any way absolute.  </p>
<p>This however is the how many Christian groups view Bible (missing that they impact meaning through their interpretation).  This leads to an idolatrous perspective of Bible.</p>
<p>For me The Bible has tremendous meaning and has fundamentally informed my understanding of God, the world and myself.  I have spent years reading, studying and trusting it.  I took Greek and Hebrew in Seminary so that I might be a better student of the text.  </p>
<p>However we must keep in mind that no matter how diligently we study, the goal is not the bible but the one to whom it points.  </p>
<p>St. Thomas said, &#8220;The primary object of faith is not a proposition, but the reality that it designates.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by jessica</title>
		<link>http://huntingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/authority-in-community-the-bible-as-idolatry/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Authority is that which we look to for meaning and from which we speak.&quot;

So, the antithesis of this is that the Bible being no authority does not speak for you, and you do not look to it for meaning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Authority is that which we look to for meaning and from which we speak.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, the antithesis of this is that the Bible being no authority does not speak for you, and you do not look to it for meaning?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by kelleymata</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelleymata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do I mean by authority?  Authority is that which we look to for meaning and from which we speak.  Do we find justification in our Christian living from our or an interpretation of holy writ, or in the God in whom our living is aimed?  Some would say that Bible is our &quot;ultimate authority.&quot;  But I am saying that (in that scenario: Bible as ultimate authority)  it isn&#039;t really Bible, but our interpretation of Bible and that probably points back to us more than to God.  

I find justification for my Christian living from more existential sources, like our common exploration into God, faith and things Christian.  Now Bible certainly fits into that because it is one of the places that points at God&#039;s purpose, love, kingdom, grace etc.  But it it is set on too high a place (not realizing our interpretational imposition) then we set up for ourselves an idol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I mean by authority?  Authority is that which we look to for meaning and from which we speak.  Do we find justification in our Christian living from our or an interpretation of holy writ, or in the God in whom our living is aimed?  Some would say that Bible is our &#8220;ultimate authority.&#8221;  But I am saying that (in that scenario: Bible as ultimate authority)  it isn&#8217;t really Bible, but our interpretation of Bible and that probably points back to us more than to God.  </p>
<p>I find justification for my Christian living from more existential sources, like our common exploration into God, faith and things Christian.  Now Bible certainly fits into that because it is one of the places that points at God&#8217;s purpose, love, kingdom, grace etc.  But it it is set on too high a place (not realizing our interpretational imposition) then we set up for ourselves an idol.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Authority in community, the Bible as Idolatry by jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you define what you mean by authority as you mean it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you define what you mean by authority as you mean it?</p>
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